> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://nolongerset.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # twinBASIC Update: November 3, 2025 - URL: https://nolongerset.com/twinbasic-update-november-3-2025/ - Published: 2025-11-04T04:59:00.000Z - Updated: 2026-05-08T12:47:27.000Z - Description: Highlights include an announced date for the next BETA release, a preview of one of the upcoming features, and a recent reddit post generating lots of twinBASIC mentions. - Author: Mike Wolfe - Tags: twinBASIC Weekly Update, #Import 2026-05-20 02:59 *On April 23, 2021, I helped* [*Wayne Phillips*](https://twitter.com/WaynePhillipsEA/) *introduce the world to* [*twinBASIC*](https://www.twinbasic.com/) *at the* [*Access DevCon Vienna*](https://www.donkarl.com/devcon/) *conference. I* [*boldly predicted*](https://nolongerset.com/devcon-2021/) *that twinBASIC (along with the Monaco editor) would replace VBA and its outdated development environment by 2025\. With that goal in mind, this weekly update is my attempt to keep the project fresh in the minds of the VBA development community.* *Every ~~Sunday~~ ~~Monday~~ week, I will be providing updates on the status of the project, linking to new articles discussing twinBASIC, and generally trying to increase engagement with the project. If you come across items that should be included here, please leave a comment below.* *Here are some links to get involved with the project:* - [***Custom twinBASIC IDE Installation Guide***](https://nolongerset.com/how-to-install-twinbasic/) - [*twinBASIC Discord Server*](https://discord.com/invite/UaW9GgKKuE) *(*[*chat about the project*](https://github.com/WaynePhillipsEA/twinbasic/discussions/629)*)* - [*twinBASIC Wiki*](https://github.com/twinbasic/documentation/wiki/) *(list of* [*new features*](https://github.com/twinbasic/documentation/wiki/twinBASIC-Features) *not in VBx)* - [*GitHub Issue Tracker (report bugs)*](https://github.com/WaynePhillipsEA/twinbasic/issues) - [*twinBASIC/VBx LinkedIn Group*](https://www.linkedin.com/groups/14132101/) --- ## Highlights ### Next Release Date: Tuesday, November 11th Per [Wayne in Discord](https://discord.com/channels/927638153546829845/927638154192748606/1432673813015040130): ![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/eb/d7/ebd732c1-5f03-4f07-b386-5d08557e15c9/content/images/2025/11/image.png) Plus a sneak preview of what to expect in that release: [![Heads up: ByVal UDTs are supported in the next release 🙂 (non-complex UDTs only, i.e. containing no Strings, Variants, Objects, Arrays)](https://storage.ghost.io/c/eb/d7/ebd732c1-5f03-4f07-b386-5d08557e15c9/content/images/2025/11/image-2.png)](https://discord.com/channels/927638153546829845/927638154192748606/1434258300354171071) And an even sneakier preview of what to expect next year: [![Wayne: I'm only just getting out of first gear. Wait till you see what I've got in store for 2026!](https://storage.ghost.io/c/eb/d7/ebd732c1-5f03-4f07-b386-5d08557e15c9/content/images/2025/11/image-3.png)](https://discord.com/channels/927638153546829845/927638154192748606/1434563561522204732) ### December v1.0 Release Target Confirmed A [promising Q&A](https://discord.com/channels/927638153546829845/927638154192748606/1433127813040308264) between Wayne and a new Discord user: > Q: Is twinBASIC on track to a December v1.0 release? > > A: We’re still aiming for the v1.0 release around December — if it slips, it’ll likely only be by a month. [![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/eb/d7/ebd732c1-5f03-4f07-b386-5d08557e15c9/content/images/2025/11/image-1.png)](https://discord.com/channels/927638153546829845/927638154192748606/1433127813040308264) ## Discord Chat Summary \* *Auto-generated via Claude-Sonnet-4.5* ### Overview The week saw extensive technical discussions around Cairo graphics integration, WinRT development, and design patterns in twinBASIC. Community members explored cross-platform graphics solutions, debated language features like anonymous functions and multiple inheritance, and shared sophisticated WinRT implementations. Wayne announced the next release date (Nov 11th) and confirmed ByVal UDT support for non-complex types, while discussions about twinBASIC's evolution toward self-hosting and modern development patterns highlighted the project's maturation. #### Graphics & Cairo Development - **yereverluvinunclebert** made significant progress migrating from RichClient to the community-driven vbCairo wrapper, discovering that RC's heavy abstraction obscures Cairo's native functions and limits portability potential - The community discussed cross-platform graphics approaches, with Cairo emerging as the preferred solution over Windows-specific technologies like WinRT or Direct2D for multi-platform compatibility - Extensive technical discussions covered Cairo callback implementation challenges in VB6 versus twinBASIC, with **fafalone** providing guidance on CDecl callbacks using The trick's addin - **waynephillipsea** clarified that VB6's conditional compilation blocks ignore syntax errors in inactive code paths, enabling common VB6/tB codebases #### WinRT Integration & Modern Patterns - **deletedewd** showcased impressive WinRT implementations including async/await simulation using `MsgWaitForMultipleObjects` and DoEvents, creating efficient non-blocking operations without true language-level async support - Demonstrated practical WinRT applications: MediaPlayer, StreamSocket-based chat application, and modern UI elements like MessageBoxes and PopupMenus - **XelNiya** provided extensive explanations of modern design patterns (Builder, Dependency Injection, MVVM) and their implementation challenges in twinBASIC versus .NET, highlighting the value of anonymous functions - Community debated the merits of various design patterns for team development and code maintainability, with **mansellan** emphasizing the importance of package systems and IoC patterns #### Language Features & Type System - **waynephillipsea** announced ByVal UDT support coming in the next release for non-complex types (no Strings, Variants, Objects, or dynamic Arrays), addressing a major interop limitation - Detailed discussions on multiple inheritance implementation in twinBASIC, with **fafalone** explaining the new `Inherits A, B` syntax and its differences from VB.NET's interface-based approach - **XelNiya** analyzed VB6's type system inconsistencies around arrays and Decimals, explaining why treating arrays as objects (as in .NET) provides better type system consistency - Community explored multidimensional array syntax and row-major vs column-major layout differences between VB and C/C++ #### Project Milestones & Community - **waynephillipsea** confirmed next release date of November 11th and teased significant plans for 2026, stating he's "only just getting out of first gear" - A potential commercial customer inquired about v1.0 timeline and CI/CD capabilities; Wayne confirmed December target (possibly slipping by one month) and provisional command-line build support - **XelNiya** reflected on twinBASIC's 5+ year journey (development started 2019, public release April 2021), discussing the significance of self-hosting compilers as a maturity milestone - **bclothier** confirmed self-hosting is a long-term post-v1 goal, with some components already written in tB and plans to leverage LLVM for optimization ### Conclusion The week demonstrated twinBASIC's growing sophistication as developers tackled advanced scenarios like WinRT integration and cross-platform graphics. The announcement of ByVal UDT support represents another step toward full VB6 compatibility while enabling better C/C++ interop. Discussions around design patterns and language evolution show the community thinking beyond VB6 parity toward modern development practices. With the November 11th release approaching and Wayne's enthusiasm for 2026 plans, the project continues its steady march toward v1.0 while maintaining focus on practical developer needs and real-world use cases. ### ## Around the Web ### reddit: Anyone still using VB6 in 2025? Multiple mentions of twinBASIC in [this reddit post](https://www.reddit.com/r/visualbasic/comments/1ok8m4f/anyone%5Fstill%5Fusing%5Fvb6%5Fin%5F2025/). As well there should be in 2025... > [Anyone still using VB6 in 2025 ?](https://www.reddit.com/r/visualbasic/comments/1ok8m4f/anyone%5Fstill%5Fusing%5Fvb6%5Fin%5F2025/) > by [u/No-Annual-4698](https://www.reddit.com/user/No-Annual-4698/) in [visualbasic](https://www.reddit.com/r/visualbasic/) ### ### WebView2 very simple User **feldharke** posted this "very simple" demo of using the WebView2 control in the show-and-tell channel. Follow [this link](https://discord.com/channels/927638153546829845/1434184421401034886/1434184421401034886) or click on the image below to download the .twinproj file from Discord: [![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/eb/d7/ebd732c1-5f03-4f07-b386-5d08557e15c9/content/images/2025/11/image-4.png)](https://discord.com/channels/927638153546829845/1434184421401034886/1434184421401034886) ## Changelog Here are the updates from the past week. You can also find this information by visiting the GitHub [twinBASIC Releases page](https://github.com/WaynePhillipsEA/twinbasic/releases). [Releases · WaynePhillipsEA/twinbasicContribute to WaynePhillipsEA/twinbasic development by creating an account on GitHub.![](https://github.githubassets.com/favicons/favicon.svg)GitHubWaynePhillipsEA![](https://opengraph.githubassets.com/13bf5f13278e5633e644e312c6a75cfe0baf97f01dd45660573b36f5de0ee945/WaynePhillipsEA/twinbasic)](https://github.com/WaynePhillipsEA/twinbasic/releases) - *No new releases this week.*